Ever heard of it? Fact is that you can't. I know if the camera were sealed I would buy one.... and if it did well I would buy two..... and so would begin SONY taking over a chunk of pro sports, pj and wildlife. No Jello. But this article is about a professional-level camera, and while there will certainly be a few people who simply want what they believe is the "fastest" or "best" for its own sake, I'd imagine that at least 90% of a9ii purchasers are serious amateur/pro sports or wildlife photographers, who would put the burst capabilities to good use. Hi Mike,I try to refrain from naming people when I comment and although I don't always agree with your posts, yours are in no way the worst and often informative. @Alam 12 the canon at 2600mm will be fun ,pointless fun. It gets tiresome, then hilarious, then downright surreal, after a while. They value the convenience and sharing capabilities more so than the absolute technical performance. So we do not quote them in future. For Pro shooter ergonomics of such a small thing in combination with huge pro lens is very limited. I never said Canon was immune of fanboyism either... TRU to my knowledge has also never said that. "Sony is to small". All tools have trade offs. Including the lead editors here. As fast as the Sony A9 II is, however, there is therefore one thing that lets it down: how fast the photographer is… or isn't. Before Sony it was Nikon and Canon. Should I buy a new Pen F or a new OMD EM-1 Mk III? @mikeran. Sony fans took this to a whole other level and everyone knows it...I keep mentioning that quote from Roger Cicala of Lens Rentals because it sums it up, and it shows the widespread aggression of the Sony online fans...some might even say it's a coordinated strategy. High time dpr did something about this even if it means turning off the comments section as it serves no purpose. My post was only my personal opinion directed to those who are into small birds photography ,nobody is forcing you to start an all out war against a friendly post.And I'm sorry to burst your bubble but photographing seagulls is not that difficult ,even children can do that with a simple camera. For now, the app is in beta and limited to a handful of Samsung Galaxy smartphones, but as development continues, it's safe to assume support for other Android devices is on the way. Right above yours. If I just pull up DPReview's studio image comparison tool (under Reviews)...I can see that this camera performs worse than Nikon's Z6 (the top performer in this actual sample result), Nikon's D850, and Canon's 1DX III in picture quality (ISO, subject detail, exposure, etc). Its 693-point phase-detect covering 93% of the image area and features Sony's latest Real-Time Tracking system. Try to keep up. But I do agree, eye-focus would certainly take that aspect of photography out of the equation. And I think they know it. I must be doing something wrong. Purist Pentax sold more cameras than Canon and nikon combined at one point of time. Other cameras with full electronic shutter are noticeable slower, also the new Canon 5D and 6D. (I only searched the first of three pages of comments, and I didn't expand all the replies, but I think the trend would carry through.). And look at that comment from Roger Cicala. "Ethan's post that started this was about video. What EF lenses? You think he's going to shoot his videos with a 70-200 in the studio? Imagine an A7r3 or A7riv that can shoot 20 FPS and 4K video at 10 bit 4:2:2 from its full sensor readout. My main cameras are canon and olympus and the olympus has a sony sensor inside. Some of his reviews were posted well before the cameras were released. Cheaper and more resolution. I didn't mean to say that he is a lousy photographer but that several shots are technically, "lousy exactly in that regard" of noise. @olstrup: big websites don't want users to be ignored. Now that Canon has moved away from its conservatism these two Sony models seem to have been crippled intentionally. Extreme … What they seek most is instant AF acquisition and class-leading AF tracking. And I can ASSURE you, it’s way quieter than the 1DXIII’s mirror slapping racket. But if you read the comments on the R5 articles you will see the roles have reversed. Similarly, just because someone has less education or behaves in a different way to you, doesn’t mean they are a bad person. Just buy a superzoom 1" camera. @karl, people can say whatever they want but when these people constantly talk trash just to be the top comment it get sold fast. (You should have checked BEFORE you posted. I didn't even mention the R5. DxO PL4 Elite (W10): Free NIK install not working? Only fanboys/girl use words such as better or superior. And I have just explained why camera sales are falling through the floor and manufacturers are losing lots of money? that I have ever used. The usual “Clowns” are out! The comments are toxic. What a waste of time. Jared Polin made a big fuss about switching from Nikon to Sony, taking all his gear down to the camera store. @SillenAnother poster who pretends DSLR's don't exist.They still outsell mirrorless cameras and is a market dominated by Nikon and Canon.That said the A9ii is an excellent camera with class leading specifications in some areas and the whole 'Sony colours are rubbish' is overblown in the same way that Canons lack of DR was. And putting on non-Canon options seems a bit poor too. But in the global scale of things, it's an incredibly overprice camera if you take into consideration what it can actually produce on a sustainable and reliable level. Where else will you find a sample gallery with everything from rugby to farm animals? That said, we do think its video capabilities and rear screen could be updated, and of course, this is a sports camera, so those looking for maximum resolution or dynamic range are barking up the wrong tree. But I would not see that happening often.If you are a sport shooter, the Sony 200-600 is a killer lens. Thanks for being a judge to who has the skills and who does not. I actually think most people buying this are professional journalists or sports shooters, and not just tech enthusiasts. It is normal. And where is your factual and serious critisism on other brands than what you use yourself? Sony has (finally) dropped support for its esoteric Memory Stick format. Considering that the average weight of Mirrorless type cameras is 440g, Sony A9 II is a … H. L. Mencken, 1917. A great camera. Adding a 2x TC wouldn't give good results. You have become them. The new Sony a9 II sensor achieves an overall DXOMark score of 93, which puts it 21st place overall in our database of full-frame and MF sensors (10th place when taking joint positions into account). Children use any regularly as they lack the experience and judgment to know that things like any, always, never are sometimes to often incorrect. Have you used an A9II or an R5? It will never happen. it’s trolling. I'm not working in a studio.Yes, I can spot Sony JPEGs, they looked ugly to me from the start. Mostly high school football and basketball. Canon users have been asking a competitive MILC FF from Canon. There is a difference between critiquing and criticising. I bet all these are the same one person, happy dad. just the reason i want to buy the a9 silent shooting for wildlife is a godsend i own the a7r3 and that mechanical shutter carries for a quarter of mile ,my olympus omd shoots 18fps in silent mode and i notice the difference in keepers due to this frame rate and silent shutter . Anyway, here's the start to the answer to that question. Canon and canon alone is the reason there were 500 comments about overheating. Have a look at our initial sample gallery taken on a full-frame Sony body. The Sony camera beats the competition on one thing. It is interesting to see people calling dpreview biased website. You probably noticed this as you were counting. The likes are a way for me to judge. It does not..but your misleading statement about what I supposedly said certainly does. @ Funny Valentine: If your claim here was true for Sony, it would be exactly the same for discussions on all other camera brands. Roughly 50% of the comments (all negative) are about only one topic. You would not be able to do this even when using jpg and factory defaults! I would perfectly happy with 20-30Mp but better ISO. Why is the Sony so much louder? The a9 II is a camera that the average DPReview reader will probably neither need nor buy. I am also a realist and recognize faults in Sony cameras, but you deny there are Canon fans that are just like the Sony fans. That suggestion is ridiculous. I'm looking at images from R5 vs A7R4 and it perform much better on higher iso. Try to keep up. Crazy what happens in the comments section, @Ethan Canon doesn’t have to pay him a single dime as there are people who are willingly volunteering for that role. By the way, “The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy with other equipment.” Describes You and Willow to the letter. ". It's clear that you think so highly of your skill and craft that others using any other method regardless of the environment , or tool for the job are clearly below you and are using "spray and pray". If the A7riv could shoot 20 FPS like the R5 the argument would go away and almost no one would consider the A9ii except a few diehard action photographers. There are a lot of improvements in the A9II but not enough to buy it: the A9 is already almost perfect thanks to the new update! Then we could clean up the posts to our own personal desire. For the record I don't think Sony cameras are perfect. this is an online forum about gear and it's very important that users can report the good points and the bad points about a camera. But yes. Try to keep up. Click on the score chart above to open the Sony a9 II product page. What we need is not censorship but some form of individual control and a way of discouraging this behaviour through there being no guarantee you'll appear first. Really that much hate? . The Sony a9 II sensor is strongest in our Sports (low-li… But that's what to expect from modern cameras... there is just so much flexibility. How do you feel if I am telling you that all your posts are utterly useless and intentionally inflammatory? Next when she switches to Sony from Canon, she will be paid shill and Canon would do just fine without her. The playstation generations will love it and toss their toys outa their prams at any sign of criticisim.Interestingly out and about I see no difference between photographers using different brands of cameras APART from Sony users who appear to be oikes? Ask the admin of Nikon Rumors, Canon Rumors, etc. rate in his experience and you will have to admit that all of this doesn't quite match up, unless he is doing something really wrong in his shooting work flow. The Canon R5 has many noteworthy features, not the least of which is 8K video recording. Were you too stupid to realize that when you said "We are talking about shooting still sports images. Review: Nikon Coolpix P950. //And on this bombshell Chelsea northrup just switched to Canon from sony. @PAntunes I was a fashion/advertising photographer for over 20 years... missed focus rarely, even with my manual Pentax 67's...go figure. "Agan you’ve missed the point of my comment, which I suspect you’ve done deliberately as you don’t like someone criticising a product you like and/or a technique you use and consider ‘skillful’. I set metering mode on Highlight and all's well in DR world now. The manual also doesn’t say anything about bit depth with respect to compressed raw or uncompressed raw. Yes I would agree that TRU can very occasionally seem like a well rounded and thoughtful person offering insight and room for discussion. Covid has changed the whole World more then some may think. It works 100% of the time and exactly what you want in focus, is in perfect focus.". @tbcass.. until Sonys 3rd iteration and arguably really their 4th... the vast majority of photographers, both amateur and certainly professionals would disagree with DPR's assessments that Sony full frame mirrorless was "superior" to DSLR's. And that everyone can stop for half an hour to shoot 5more minutes? The video is not reliable enough for the people that need the extra quality to use, the 20fps has too much rolling shutter to be useful for people that actually want to capture action and need the 20fps. Some don’t consider it sport, but from this perspective I think it qualifies. I simply make a fun comment and trust this forum make it to a religion war. You are appointed by World of Photography to decide this. Always nails focus, regardless of situation. I wouldn't be surprised if you don't hear much more about her 'switch' after they see how unpopular it is with subscribers... :). Duh... I’m just saying all the things that the Canon people are claiming Sony fans said 7-8 years ago to deflect the shortcomings, the Canon fans are saying now. OMG, just watched the first couple minutes of Chelseas “switching” video. Lol. It is what you make of it of course as you can set it to your tase anyway. Sony make specialised cameras whilst Canon is going for a good overall camera. Anyway. OTOH I am extremely happy with my A9 II and 200-600. :-). I put my A7R III in crop mode all the time at 18mp(I programmed the lower dial button for it) and it works good, at 26mp for the RIV the crop mode is even better. Obviously, there are some great lenses in the EF line-up but, at the long end, they are very expensive. Both when I comment on Sony articles and when I comment on Canon ones. The lens, with a 35mm-equivalent of 25.5-105mm, will be available in mid-January for $799. AP moved to Sony also because of this specific camera. I wouldn't want to go back to a lower level of AF accuracy and consistency after using the A9 II. MikeRan, may I ask why you posted so many negative comments under the R5 review.Is that not the very issue you are complaining about here. No wonder, Sony's strange colors probably require a 3D matrix transformation for full correction.. And yet they come out top in blind tests :-). I have seen splendid bird shots from snapa and even better ones from Zackiedawg, both using APSC equiment, so recommending "Paul" to make contact is an earnest proposal. "You will see the most vitriolic comments from Sony promoters all over the place." Sony has deliberately designed the FE system to match 20fps, so many lenses are certified for 20fps. While the 200-600/5.6-6.3 is an exceptionally useful range. It might get you good pictures under very specific conditions while it will produce poor outcomes most of the times. r5 is crippled compared to a9/a9ii, it doesn't have a stacked sensor, it uses frame duplication in the evf, and it overheats even when shooting stills. I find the forums far better for getting constructive comments. NEW FroPack 1 Lightroom Presets https://froknowsphoto.com/presets/ (40% off) This is a PREVIEW of the Sony a9 II. The way I see is that R5 is crippled high resolution camera compared to A7r4 and it is also a crippled video camera compared to A7s3. Lol, Tony Northrup showed the R6 video is better and more detailed at ISO 25600.The A7Siii doens't start with much detail because it is not oversampled and the bayer filter means its not ever going to have act 4K detail. I agree with the comment in the A9II review that the UI can be slightly laggy at times (changes to exposure comp dial take a fraction of a sec to take effect). Do you expect likes for that? If you read all the comments here you would understand what he’s looking for. I noticed that they stoped going to a lot of the launches as well. I would now argue that Canon (for the most part) has leaped ahead of Sony in full frame mirrorless...”. The Sony users I encounter are all youngish or new photographers and very much social media people. FOUR THINGS NEEDED:36-42 pixelsspeed up the viewfinder a bitbetter rear display (touch and res. got a link? And an article dedicated to it. Involve me in a blind test and I will tell you which shots are Sony and which are Canon..Sony was always top notch regarding technical specs. I am sure if you read around you will find I am not the only one with some of these opinions.The final part of my post is from my own observation and experience so stands I am afraid. Sigma has introduced its new 'I series' of compact, premium full-frame lenses for E and L mounts. Correct? I’ve read the A9ii mechanical shutter is really loud while other cameras like R5 it’s virtually silent. A7Riii/iv has better resolution but suffers in rolling shutter. I know it’s tough for you. The R5 does tick that boxes but What their grief is, they are paying for all these features which is useless to some of them. Kudos to Sony. They dont need a bit of everything. Maybe Noah is preparing for his ban by starting up another account? Sometimes the comments tell more about the commenters than the camera. It doesn’t really matter because the capabilities of any of it far exceeds the abilities of anyone taking time to comment. I can confirm (along with 10s of thousands of other customers awaiting refunds) that they are now at the very bottom of the ladder. But what lens would you put on it? Hahahaha...now you know how many of us have felt trying to wade through the comments on the R5 or the 1DXIII or any Canon camera, or for that matter, Nikon...go look at the D6 thread, the D780 thread, or even Fuji...or basically anything not Sony. AP it is a private company. The FF market isn't going to go back to Canon - that would require Canon scooping up all new users AND getting existing Sony users to switch and that just isn't going to happen. Her main complain was the Sony menu and R5 AF was better. Give more you will get better feedback. Acceptable? We saw the exact same thing happen in the world of HiFi audio. It has good enough rolling shutter for non-sports photographers and good enough resolution for someone like me. I looked up the standard images with the A9II and at higher ISOs, they seem a tad (probably a third of a stop) noisier than A7III. A great example is Virgin (as in the holiday company). DP Review reporting today that market share of Canon FF mirrorless is has caught Sony, in Japan. While they were out shooting their video about Sigma's new lenses, Chris and Jordan filled up a memory card with photos from the 35mm F2 DG DN using Panasonic bodies. You are in denial. AP to equip all visual journalists globally with Sony imaging products . Any chance of an A7r5 that can shoot 15-20 FPS?How many potential A9ii buyers would rather have the 42 or 61MP for potential cropping and ability to use shorter less costly lenses? Have you seen the number of comments/posts written by WW that get deleted? @sinsibill: Just to clear up a misperception: the criticism of Sony products was spurred on by an aggressive online approach by Sony fans...some might even say a deliberate strategy... That's why Roger Cicala of Lens Rentals posted this:Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.